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Bu$h Sez- Economy is Smokin- What's He Been Smokin?????
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Enceladus
2003-09-02 15:12:00 UTC
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Looks Like a Recovery, Feels Like a Recession
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE


ven though the recession ended nearly two years ago, polls show that
American workers are feeling stressed and shaky this Labor Day because the
nation continues to register month after month of job losses and wages are
rising more slowly than inflation.

One factor above all has fueled the insecurity: the nation has lost 2.7
million jobs over the last three years. The recovery has been so weak since
the recession ended in November 2001 that the nation's payrolls are down one
million jobs from when economic growth resumed.

Indeed, the current economic expansion is the worst on record in terms of
job growth. The average length of unemployment, more than 19 weeks, spiked
this summer to its highest level in two decades.

"American workers are doing very badly," said Carl Van Horn, director of the
Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University. "All the
trends are in the negative direction. There's high turnover, high
instability, a reduction in benefits and a declining loyalty on the part of
employers. At the same time, expectations for productivity and quality are
going up. It's a bad situation from a worker's standpoint."

In August, a Gallup poll found that 81 percent of Americans thought now was
a bad time to find a quality job, tying March for the highest percentage
since Gallup began regularly asking the question two years ago.

A new survey by the University of Michigan found that while workers were
showing somewhat less fear about unemployment, they were voicing concern
that their wage increases were shrinking.

"Most workers expect the economy to improve, but at the same time they don't
expect to have their income or their wages increase," said Richard Curtin,
director of surveys at the University of Michigan. "It's a very untypical
environment."

Weekly earnings for all private-sector workers, after accounting for
inflation, have slid for the last seven months, down two-tenths of one
percent so far this year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has reported. A new
study by the Economic Policy Institute, a research group financed by
foundations and labor unions, found that hourly after-inflation wages had
slipped across the board for most workers.


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techie
2003-09-02 18:49:55 UTC
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Post by Enceladus
Looks Like a Recovery, Feels Like a Recession
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
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Post by Enceladus
Weekly earnings for all private-sector workers, after accounting for
inflation, have slid for the last seven months, down two-tenths of one
percent so far this year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has reported. A new
study by the Economic Policy Institute, a research group financed by
foundations and labor unions, found that hourly after-inflation wages had
slipped across the board for most workers.
An interesting article in the newspaper yesterday claimed that
productivity has gone up by 71% in the past 30 years, but wages (in
terms of cost-of-living) have gone up only 7%.

Somebody's not sharing.
DJ
2003-09-02 21:18:15 UTC
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Post by techie
An interesting article in the newspaper yesterday claimed that
productivity has gone up by 71% in the past 30 years, but wages (in
terms of cost-of-living) have gone up only 7%.
Somebody's not sharing.
What good is the productivity measurement if the data set only
includes 30% of the work force. We aren't counting 70% of all
workers. Perhaps people are scared of losing their jobs so they put
in 80 hours a week and get paid for 40 --- is that a productivity
increase? Fear! It is only going to get worse with Bush's overtime
pay changes. If you are lucky enough to be eligible for overtime now,
you might not be in the future.

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"That formula works best with workers who are paid by the hour. But
according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so-called "hourly
workers" make up less than 30 percent of the work force. So if,
instead of making widgets you're, say, a fulltime sales manager for
carpet store or running your own catering business, you're probably
not getting paid by the hour. And no one is keeping track of how many
hours you work."
http://www.msnbc.com/news/952422.asp?0cb=-418173784
<end snippet>

The tussle over overtime
http://www.msnbc.com/news/952421.asp?0cb=-318173784


DJ

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2003-09-03 14:55:44 UTC
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Post by Enceladus
Looks Like a Recovery, Feels Like a Recession
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
<snip>
Post by Enceladus
Weekly earnings for all private-sector workers, after accounting for
inflation, have slid for the last seven months, down two-tenths of one
percent so far this year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has reported. A new
study by the Economic Policy Institute, a research group financed by
foundations and labor unions, found that hourly after-inflation wages had
slipped across the board for most workers.
An interesting article in the newspaper yesterday claimed that
productivity has gone up by 71% in the past 30 years, but wages (in
terms of cost-of-living) have gone up only 7%.
Somebody's not sharing.
And you can bet they're big CON-tributors to the Reichwingnut party.

John M.

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JAC
2003-09-03 16:34:48 UTC
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Post by techie
An interesting article in the newspaper yesterday claimed that
productivity has gone up by 71% in the past 30 years, but wages (in
terms of cost-of-living) have gone up only 7%.
Somebody's not sharing.
Productivity doesn't necessarily go completely to profits. Increased
productivity can at times be necessary just to maintain profits in a
more competitive marketplace.

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