Poll: More Believe Bush Behind Attack Ads

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Ron

2004-08-28 04:30:12 UTC

Poll: More Believe Bush Behind Attack Ads
Fri Aug 27, 7:07 PM ET
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040827/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_vietnam_opinion&printer=1

NEW YORK - Americans increasingly believe President Bush's re-election campaign is behind
the ads attacking Democrat John Kerry's Vietnam experience, a poll found.

Almost half in a poll taken this week say they think the president's campaign is behind
the ads that try to undercut Kerry's medals for heroism while just over a third think the
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is an independent group, the National Annenberg Election
Survey found.

The Swift boat ads, which ran in three swing states earlier this month, challenged Kerry's
wartime service in Vietnam for which he received five medals.

The public's belief that Kerry did not earn his medals grew to 30 percent when the attack
ads got widespread publicity on cable news networks. But that number has dropped to 24
percent now.

Kerry's campaign has accused President Bush of involvement in the ad campaign, a charge
that was stepped up after Bush campaign counsel Benjamin Ginsberg acknowledged he was
advising the group and resigned Wednesday from the Bush campaign.

In polling from Monday through Thursday, 46 percent said they believed the Bush campaign
was behind the ads and 37 percent said they thought the ads were done independently.

The president and his campaign staff have said repeatedly they have no connection to the
ads, which have come under increasing criticism as Navy records and additional witnesses
backed Kerry's version of events.

On Monday and Tuesday when the Kerry campaign was making the accusation Bush was involved,
42 percent said the Bush campaign was behind them and 41 percent said they were truly
independent.

After Ginsberg resigned from the campaign on Wednesday, 50 percent said in polling the
next two nights that the Bush campaign was connected to the ads and 34 percent said it was
not.

Ginsberg and lawyers on the Democratic side have represented both the campaigns or party
and outside groups running ads in the presidential race.

The poll of 1,244 adults was taken Aug. 23-28 and has a margin of sampling error of plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

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National Annenberg Election Survey: http://www.naes04.com

Hanoi Jane Fonda

2004-08-28 05:18:10 UTC

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Commandments for Leftwing Liberals

How to be a Good Leftwing Liberal

1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th
graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids
about sex.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans
are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands
of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected
by soccer moms driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being
homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment for criminals, even
murderers, but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and
governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony
activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that the military, not politicians, start
wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain
parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports
certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too
high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are
more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert
E.Lee and Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial
quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal, and really a
very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked
anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in
charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in
jail, but a draft-dodging liar and sex offender belonged in the White
House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag,
transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and
manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the
Chinese government is somehow in the best interests of the United
States.

21. You have to refuse to discuss the issues in a rational manner and
whenever someone attempts to do so, outshout them (preferably with
profanity and name-calling) and stick to personal slurs, smear
tactics, slander and building strawmen so you can knock down the
strawpersons and hopefully sidetrack the conversation.

22. You have to always ignore the message and attack the messenger.
When stuck, change a couple of your adversaries words' and repeat
their comments back to them verbatim and by all means always be sure
to accuse your opponents of using the very tactics used by the
Leftwing Liberals, remembering all the while that Lenin would be
proud.

23. No matter how credible a source may be always claim it's been
discredited and call anyone who believes it "mean spirited" and crazy.

24. Whenever demonstrated facts don't agree with your agenda, twist
them and mangle them until you can make them fit into your prejudices,
the media will assist you greatly.

25. Once you've told a lie or slandered someone, be sure to repeat it
as often as possible until it becomes true. "Members and front
organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our
critics. When
obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi
or anti-Semitic .... The association will, after enough repetition,
become "fact" in the public mind." [ ~ Communist Party, Moscow Central
Committee, 1943]

26. You have to believe that all sprirituality and all religions
except Islam are bad.

27. You have to use the following buzzwords as often as possible:
"Nazi", "Hitler", "police state", "imperialism", "imperialist",
"greedy corporations", "shrub", "fascist", "stolen election",
"racist",
"entitlements" "plight of the [fill in the blank] peoples,
mean-spirited and, of course, overuse of the indispensible "F" word.

28. You have to believe that there were never any weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq, even though they were used against Iran, the
Kurds and the the Iraqi people and even though the many Democrats
warned us about WMD before the Iraqi invasion: William Jefferson
Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Sandy Berger, Madeline Albright, Senators
Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, John Kerry, Bob
Graham, Ted Kennedy, Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman and
vice-president Al Gore to name only the most vociferous.

29. You have to be a purveyor of perennial pessimism and a dispatcher
of doomsday gloom and hyperbolic hysteria whenever you can work some
scare tactics into the foreboding warnings of eventual catastrophe at
the hands of your adversaries, i.e. people who disagree with you.

30. Whenever possible, if you hear or read something that seems quite
logical and might influence someone against the Liberal viewpoint, be
sure to find some tiny, inconsequential irrelevancy, such as the
misspelling or mispronunciation of a word, unusual facial expression,
article of clothing or some morsel of arcane trivia to attempt to
derail the conversation into petty bickering replete with name-calling
and personal slurs. [Use of the "F" word is particularly effective,
especially when combined with prepubescent profanity and puerile
posturing.]

31. Always have unkind and accusatory slurs cocked and ready to use
regarding any armed forces personnel other than your own candidates,
sell-outs, turncoats, traitors and those who are guilty of or advocate
treason.

32. When your adversary presents a particularly damning discovery,
pervert it, twist it around, accuse him of something he didn't say,
falsely attribute your invention to him and then proceed to argue
against your own creation with the hope nobody will notice.

33. You have to remember that nobody but your adversaries, real or
imagined are ever to blame for anything and no one should ever be
accountable or held responsible for their words or actions - they're
just misunderstood.

34. You have to be a victim of as many things as possible and be ever
vigilant to promote victimization of almost anything and anyone
although that's very difficult to reconcile with the assertion that
nobody's to blame for anything, except the people who don't agree with
you.

35. You must always have double standards, a higher standard that you
demand of people you don't like and people who don't agree with you
and another for yourself and your confederates which is preferably no
standards at all.

36. You must with all your heart and soul hate America and Americans
and bash them at every opportunity, while claiming you love freedom
and America contending that patriots are really traitors.

37. You must always remember that you are a member of the grown up 4-H
and always display their watchwords: hyperbole, hysteria,
hallucinations and hate.

38. You have to believe that just because your candidate lost an
election or an unacceptable law was passed there's always the
possibility of going to court to get your way.

39. You are always to belittle and deride concepts such as patriotism,
honor, honesty, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty, courage, bravery,
principles, trust, trustworthiness, reliability, responsibility,
respect, fortitude and
character as being naive and passe.

40. You have to believe that all of the above is part of a vast right
wing conspiracy.

Thom

2004-09-07 00:11:37 UTC

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:18:10 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
Commandments for Leftwing Liberals
How to be a Good Leftwing Liberal
1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding.

if your a republican you believe that AIDS is spread by reading porn
or watching "Will & Grace".

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th
graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids
about sex.

if your a republican you believe that anyone who teaches bible classes
should get an automatic PhD and teach sex. The entire class is one
word... DON'T!

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans
are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands
of Chinese and North Korean communists.

if your a republican you believe that you can wave the flag about gun
rights but do nothing about repealing every gun law since 1968.

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

if your a republican you believe that tattos are the poor mans way of
investing in art.

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected
by soccer moms driving SUVs.

if your a republican you believe that driving an SUV helps the
environment.

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being
homosexual is natural.

if your a republican you believe that if it isn't in the bible you
can't do it.

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
7. You have to be against capital punishment for criminals, even
murderers, but support abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and
governments create prosperity.

if your a republican you believe that its governments responsibility
to give those in power no bid contracts.

Post by Hanoi Jane Fonda
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony
activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

still waiting for Bush to repeal gun control

enough republican crap

THOM

2004-09-07 00:17:30 UTC

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Post by Thom
if your a republican you believe that AIDS is spread by reading porn
or watching "Will & Grace".

AIDS is not spread that way, but ignorance certainly is.

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Increase the likelihood that your school child will
will be murdered by terrorists - elect Kerry

Thom

2004-09-13 12:20:20 UTC

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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:17:30 -0500, kw

Post by kw

Post by Thom
if your a republican you believe that AIDS is spread by reading porn
or watching "Will & Grace".

AIDS is not spread that way, but ignorance certainly is.

watching TV does cause mental illness especially commercials.

THOM

Post by kw
--
Increase the likelihood that your school child will
will be murdered by terrorists - elect Kerry

Wolf2ii

2004-09-07 05:38:59 UTC

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Post by Thom
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:18:10 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda