Bush Unemployment Rate Now Lower Than Clinton's

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

HOD

2004-01-10 17:50:33 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

Unemployment rates compared at same time in each term..... you have a
problem with that?

abracadabra

2004-01-10 20:24:15 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

Unemployment rates compared at same time in each term..... you have a
problem with that?

Not at all.
Hey - 1000 new jobs created in December. Only 299,000 or so short of what
Bush needs every month to not be the first president since hoover to lose
jobs.
BTW, have you stopped celebrating every time an American GI dies?

HOD

2004-01-10 21:39:18 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

Unemployment rates compared at same time in each term..... you have a
problem with that?

Patience Jackass, Patience.... :-))

XDCC

2005-04-02 06:03:02 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

That is definitely something that is characteristic of the liberals. They cannot
wait to get that on the news.

BUSH=TERRORIST

2005-04-04 21:20:56 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

That is definitely something that is characteristic of the liberals. They cannot
wait to get that on the news.

Clinton's unemployment rate was 4.4% for 17 months in a row, based on
creating new jobs, not based on people running out of unemployment
insurance like under Bush.

PRESIDENT CLINTON AND VICE PRESIDENT GORE:
MORE THAN 17 MILLION NEW JOBS,
UNEMPLOYMENT AT A GENERATIONAL LOW

December 4, 1998

America's Economy Remains Solid and Strong. In November, unemployment
dropped to 4.4 percent, more than a quarter of a million new jobs were
created and wages continued to grow at twice the rate of inflation. In
1992, the American economy was barely creating jobs, wages were
stagnant, and the unemployment rate was 7.5 percent. Five years ago,
President Clinton put in place a bold new three-part economic strategy
of cutting the deficit to help reduce interest rates and spur business
investment; investing in education, health care, science and
technology so that America was prepared to meet the challenges of the
21st century; and opening markets abroad so that American workers
would have a fair chance to compete and win across the globe. Since
then:

More than 17 Million New Jobs Have Been Created Under President
Clinton and Vice President Gore. Last month alone, 267,000 more jobs
were added to the American economy than were lost. Since President
Clinton took office, the economy has added 17.3 million new jobs;

Unemployment Down To 4.4 Percent in November --Below 5 Percent For 17
Months In A Row. In 1992, the unemployment rate was 7.5 percent.
In November, the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent. For the first time
in 28 years, the unemployment rate has been below 5 percent for 17
months in a row;

Highest Share of New Jobs in Private Sector in 75 Years. Since
President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, the private
sector of the economy has added 16.0 million new jobs --with over 2.5
million jobs added in the past year. Under President Clinton and Vice
President Gore, 93 percent of the 17.3 million new jobs have been in
the private sector --that is the highest percentage since Warren
G.Harding was President in the early 1920s;

Fastest Real Wage Growth in More Than Two Decades. Last month, average
hourly earnings increased 0.2 percent. Over the past year,average
hourly earnings have risen 3.7 percent --that's more than twice the
rate of inflation. After adjusting for inflation, wages have increased
at about a 2.5 percent pace in the past 12 months --that's the fastest
real wage growth in more than two decades;

Inflation --Lowest Since 1961. In the third quarter, the GDP price
index rose 0.8 percent at an annual rate. Over the past year,inflation
rose just 0.9 percent --the smallest increase in 37 years.

hope

2005-04-06 23:07:29 UTC

Post by BUSH=TERRORIST

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%

So the best Bush can do is better then the worst Clinton could do.
BTW, do you still celebrate whenever an American soldier dies?

That is definitely something that is characteristic of the liberals. They cannot
wait to get that on the news.

Clinton's unemployment rate was 4.4% for 17 months in a row, based on
creating new jobs, not based on people running out of unemployment
insurance like under Bush.
MORE THAN 17 MILLION NEW JOBS,
UNEMPLOYMENT AT A GENERATIONAL LOW
December 4, 1998
America's Economy Remains Solid and Strong. In November, unemployment
dropped to 4.4 percent, more than a quarter of a million new jobs were
created and wages continued to grow at twice the rate of inflation. In
1992, the American economy was barely creating jobs, wages were
stagnant, and the unemployment rate was 7.5 percent. Five years ago,
President Clinton put in place a bold new three-part economic strategy
of cutting the deficit to help reduce interest rates and spur business
investment; investing in education, health care, science and
technology so that America was prepared to meet the challenges of the
21st century; and opening markets abroad so that American workers
would have a fair chance to compete and win across the globe. Since
More than 17 Million New Jobs Have Been Created Under President
Clinton and Vice President Gore. Last month alone, 267,000 more jobs
were added to the American economy than were lost. Since President
Clinton took office, the economy has added 17.3 million new jobs;
Unemployment Down To 4.4 Percent in November --Below 5 Percent For 17
Months In A Row. In 1992, the unemployment rate was 7.5 percent.
In November, the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent. For the first time
in 28 years, the unemployment rate has been below 5 percent for 17
months in a row;
Highest Share of New Jobs in Private Sector in 75 Years. Since
President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, the private
sector of the economy has added 16.0 million new jobs --with over 2.5
million jobs added in the past year. Under President Clinton and Vice
President Gore, 93 percent of the 17.3 million new jobs have been in
the private sector --that is the highest percentage since Warren
G.Harding was President in the early 1920s;
Fastest Real Wage Growth in More Than Two Decades. Last month, average
hourly earnings increased 0.2 percent. Over the past year,average
hourly earnings have risen 3.7 percent --that's more than twice the
rate of inflation. After adjusting for inflation, wages have increased
at about a 2.5 percent pace in the past 12 months --that's the fastest
real wage growth in more than two decades;
Inflation --Lowest Since 1961. In the third quarter, the GDP price
index rose 0.8 percent at an annual rate. Over the past year,inflation
rose just 0.9 percent --the smallest increase in 37 years.

You all have forgotten Those Xtra 10 of thousands new recruits armies in
training as well as in commissioning in Iraq/Afganistan. If not these
new recruits, unemployment would be much higher. Thanks Hell.

Mr. Obvious

2004-01-10 16:57:21 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a lot
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file for
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

Dickmcb

2004-01-10 18:04:21 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first three
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

HOD

2004-01-10 18:21:16 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a

lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file for
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

This is so totally untrue! Where do you get these numbers?
First, Clinton's term did not result in 20 million added to total
employment!
Second, Bush's term so far has added jobs to the total employment numbers!
Where are you getting this crap?

Mr. Obvious

2004-01-11 01:29:00 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a

lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

A better question is where do YOU get all your crap statisics? The economy
is a train wreck, has been since about 6 months into Dubco's reign.

HOD

2004-01-11 01:43:10 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a

lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

A better question is where do YOU get all your crap statisics?

Bureau of Labor Statistics.......
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.12052003.news
Read 'em and weep, dildo

Post by Mr. Obvious
The economy
is a train wreck, has been since about 6 months into Dubco's reign.

Hey Gomer, Clinton's recession started 39 days after Bush took office. It
took a cleaning crew that long to get all of Monica's pubic hair out of the
oval office carpet! :-))

GENOMEMAN

2004-01-10 19:47:14 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a

lot

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Dickmcb

2004-01-10 20:24:11 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted; a

lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

****************************************
Clinton 20 million jobs gained. Bush 3 million jobs lost PLUS hundred's of
thousands of American jobs sent overseas to India, China, Mexico and other
countries. What has Bush done to stop that?

Osprey

2004-01-10 20:43:29 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be

counted;

Post by Dickmcb
a

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

http://www.nilrr.org/clinton.htm

CLINTON RIDES RIGHT TO WORK
STATES TO HIGHER JOB GROWTH
by David Kendrick

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

The fanfare with which President Clinton announced the creation of over 11
million new jobs during his first term can't drown out the fact that it was
the 21 states whose Right to Work laws Clinton wants to repeal which did
most of the work.
It was February 7 when Clinton claimed those national employment figures as
a sign of his successful economic policies. Between January 1993 and
January of this year, about 11 million new jobs were added to the US
economy; more, Clinton claimed, than in any other four-year term.

But two months later, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics released its final
estimates of January employment this year broken down by state. Those
government figures tell a far different story than that of Bill Clinton's
putative success.

While total non-farm employment rose by 11.07 million, the 21 states which
bar the forced payment of union dues, home to only 35% of the US population,
created 48% of all the new jobs. On average, the Right to Work states
created 60,000 more jobs than the 29 forced-unionism states, plus
Washington, DC, a 32% advantage for the Right to Work states.

While non-farm employment in the US rose by 10% during Clinton's first term,
it increased by nearly 14% in the Right to Work states, compared to the mere
8.1% growth in the non-Right to Work states. And of the 10 leaders in total
job growth, six were Right to Work states, including the top three, Nevada
at 32%, Arizona at 26% and Utah at 24%. Of the 10 states with the worst
record of job creation, all were non-Right to Work states.

The disparity between Right to Work and non-Right to Work states is even
more stark in the high-paying manufacturing sector. The 21 Right to Work
states created nearly two-thirds of the 370,000 new manufacturing jobs
during Clinton's first term. At 3.7%, The Right to Work states' growth
tripled the forced-unionism states' paltry 1.2% increase. And eight of the
top 10 states in this category were Right to Work states, led by the top
five of Nevada, South Dakota, Utah, Arizona, and North Dakota.

Presumably, Clinton understands the positive effect of voluntary
labor-management relations, since in his 12 years as Arkansas governor, he
never challenged the state's Right to Work law. His Industrial Development
Commission even sponsored print advertisements touting Right to Work as an
incentive for business relocation.

But in 1992, as candidate Clinton accepted hundreds of millions of dollars
in union PAC contributions, phone banks, voter turnout drives and other
activities paid for with forced dues, he and Al Gore promised in their
campaign manifesto, Putting People First, to "support the repeal of Section
14(b) of the Taft-Hartley Act" guaranteeing to the states their power to
pass Right to Work laws.

Throughout his first term, Clinton did much to undermine the freedom of
employees to decide for themselves whether a union deserves their financial
support. First, he flouted the US Supreme Court, which ruled in CWA v.
Beck, that employees in non-Right to Work states could not be forced to pay
for union politics. Rather than enforce that 1988 ruling, Clinton tore down
workplace notices about Beck and repealed financial disclosure forms which
would have required union officials to reveal their political expenses.

Then in 1994, the National Labor Relations Board's General Counsel, a
Clinton appointee, overturned 47 years of precedent in which the federal
government had recognized and enforced the states' Right to Work laws. By
his decision, Fred Feinstein left in place a forced-dues scheme which even
an NLRB judge admitted violated Mississippi's Right to Work law. As a
result, workers in Right to Work states can no longer petition the NLRB to
protect their freedom from forced-dues coercion without the need or expense
of an attorney.

That Clinton has exerted himself so strenuously to gut the policy of
voluntary unionism which contributed to his reelection gives new meaning to
the cliché about killing the goose who laid the golden egg.

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Tempest

2004-01-10 20:55:21 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted;

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Lie.

The recession started in April 2001.

What did Bush do from January to April to prevent the recession from
occuring?

Answer: absolutely nothing.

Post by Dickmcb
****************************************
Clinton 20 million jobs gained. Bush 3 million jobs lost PLUS hundred's of
thousands of American jobs sent overseas to India, China, Mexico and other
countries. What has Bush done to stop that?

--
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
- George Orwell

HOD

2004-01-10 22:28:24 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be counted;

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Lie.
The recession started in April 2001.

Oh for just a little bit of honesty from the loonie left!

Call it the Oil Recession
Anirvan Banerji
Director of Research Economic Cycle Research Institute
Member Economic Advisory Panel new York City
Member Board Expert Group on Leading Indicators
1:33 PM ET September 13, 2000
Posted on RealMoney.com

Why worry? I'll tell you why. The fact is, throughout the last 50 years,
there has never been a spike in oil-price inflation of this magnitude
without a subsequent recession. That's right -- never. And a spike in
oil-price inflation preceded almost every recession.

What it adds up to is the possibility of a sharp slowdown in consumer
spending, possibly even the sort of spending decline that triggers a
recession. Under the circumstances, underlying inflation pressures are not a
worry -- in fact, the Future Inflation Guage dropped for the fourth-straight
month in August, signaling a benign inflation outlook.

Rather, the concern is that the leading indicators of growth may be starting
to roll over, and further spikes in energy prices could tip the economy over
into its first downturn in a decade. If the Fed is able to avert a recession
after price spikes of this magnitude, that would be a first. Fact is, we've
never been able to avoid a recession after this big a spike in oil-price
inflation -- so that's already something to worry about and watch for.

The recession's official recorded start date was March 1, 2001 (39 days
after Bush took office) but any fool can see that it "started" long before
that! Only a dishonest liberal slug would ask such a stupid immature
question!

Post by Tempest
What did Bush do from January to April to prevent the recession from
occuring?

It took a commercial cleaning crew until mid April to clean up the mess that
Clinton and Monica left.... there were cigar wrappers everywhere..... ;-))

GENOMEMAN

2004-01-10 22:45:39 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they

count

Post by Mr. Obvious
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be

counted;

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will

file

Post by GENOMEMAN
for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and

fired

Post by Mr. Obvious
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the

Clinton

Post by Dickmcb
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Lie.
The recession started in April 2001.

fourth-straight

Post by Mr. Obvious
month in August, signaling a benign inflation outlook.
Rather, the concern is that the leading indicators of growth may be starting
to roll over, and further spikes in energy prices could tip the economy over
into its first downturn in a decade. If the Fed is able to avert a recession
after price spikes of this magnitude, that would be a first. Fact is, we've
never been able to avoid a recession after this big a spike in oil-price
inflation -- so that's already something to worry about and watch for.
The recession's official recorded start date was March 1, 2001 (39 days
after Bush took office) but any fool can see that it "started" long before
that! Only a dishonest liberal slug would ask such a stupid immature
question!

Post by Tempest
What did Bush do from January to April to prevent the recession from
occuring?

It had already been occurring three quarters from Clintons last day in
office. The tax cut was the thing that brought us into GDP positive
territory by the third quarter 2001.

Post by Mr. Obvious
It took a commercial cleaning crew until mid April to clean up the mess that
Clinton and Monica left.... there were cigar wrappers everywhere..... ;-))

GENOMEMAN

2004-01-10 23:28:00 UTC

Post by GENOMEMAN
Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Lie.
The recession started in April 2001.

You are off by a month, but I will let it slide this time. BUT this was
before Bush could pass his first budget. Hence, Bush "road the coattails" of
Clinton/Bore fiscal policy.

http://www.bea.gov/briefrm/gdp.htm

Note the FIRST negative GDP quarter was 1st quarter 2001. I challenge you to
specify exactly what policy Bush passed to create this (hint, this was
before his first budget was passed, nevermind had any time to manifest
itself).

Also note that this downward trend in GDP started well within Clinton's last
year was up.

Nice try though!

HOD

2004-01-10 21:43:26 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be

counted;

Post by Dickmcb
a

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

****************************************
Clinton 20 million jobs gained. Bush 3 million jobs

You're lying Buckwheat...... where do you get these silly numbers?
Cite/source/reference?
Either support your claim or admit you're a liar!

GENOMEMAN

2004-01-10 23:15:51 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

The big question being is once he legaizes the wetbacks, do they count
against the unemployment stats? The ones working will now be

counted;

Post by Dickmcb
a

Post by Dickmcb
lot

Post by Mr. Obvious
of them will hit the rolls for their handout; a lot of them will file

for

Post by Mr. Obvious
unemployment after the boss discovered they were illegals and fired
them....
This sword could cut both ways statistically. Could end up a Repug
political bloodbath...

**************************************
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first

three

Post by Dickmcb
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Sure. Bush inherited a recession. It is a fact. Get over it.

Gotten us back into incredible GDP territory
DOW, NASDAQ hitting record highs
Housing starts up
Interest rates down
Inflation down
Bigger tax deductions for capital equipment purchases for companies

Lots more.

You can cry your "jaaaaaaaaaaaabs" things all you want. Bush has done WAY
more for this economy than Clinton did.

Of course, you naturally sidestepped my MAIN point, and that is Bush
inherited a NASTY recession from Clinton/Gore.

Oh...and the average unemployment rate during Clinton's first three years in
office (1993-1995) was 6.2%.

MUWAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

HOD

2004-01-11 00:26:02 UTC

Liberals don't like to see these facts of record!

:-))

Mr. Obvious

2004-01-11 01:25:40 UTC

Post by HOD
Liberals don't like to see these facts of record!
:-))

Cite?

HOD

2004-01-11 01:51:15 UTC

Post by HOD
Liberals don't like to see these facts of record!
:-))

Cite?

http://www.boe.ca.gov/news/pdf/ep2-02.pdf
http://www.mnwfc.org/lmi/trends/june03/2001.htm
http://www.nber.org/cycles/july2003.html
http://www.fool.com/news/take/2001/take011126.htm
http://www.geog.psu.edu/courses/geog100/NYTimes/112601usrecession.html

Mr. Obvious

2004-01-14 06:04:41 UTC

Post by HOD
Liberals don't like to see these facts of record!
:-))

Cite?

http://www.boe.ca.gov/news/pdf/ep2-02.pdf

Their forecasts were way off the mark...

Post by HOD
http://www.mnwfc.org/lmi/trends/june03/2001.htm

This guy can't even SPELL recession, let alone know what it means...

Post by HOD
http://www.nber.org/cycles/july2003.html

States the recession started in 3/2001 and is seemingly continuing forever
and ever... Makes you wonder what Dubco did those first 2 months in office.
he must've really screwed the pooch to take such a strong economy and flush
it in less than 2 months.

Post by HOD
http://www.fool.com/news/take/2001/take011126.htm

Ahh, yes, the discredited Motley fool. Very appropos name, there.

Post by HOD
http://www.geog.psu.edu/courses/geog100/NYTimes/112601usrecession.html

Quoted from the site...

Post by HOD
The American economy entered a recession in March, snapping the longest period
of uninterrupted economic growth in the nation's history, a panel of noted economists
for the National Bureau of Economic Research said today.

2 months in and Dubco destroys the economy. Now THAT'S efficiency!
9 months in and he allows the WTC to be destroyed. Then allows the man
responsible to escape to plot more foul deeds. Goes to war against a
basically inert 3rd world country to shift attention from his failures with
the economy and said madman.
That's the man I want leading this country for the next 4 years! He's as
insane as the man he's supposed to be chasing.
That's the 4 Horsemen's dust trail you can see on the horizon there.

r***@yahoo.com

2004-01-15 02:27:38 UTC

" Mr. Obviously Stupid"

Post by Mr. Obvious
2 months in and Dubco destroys the economy. Now THAT'S efficiency!
9 months in and he allows the WTC to be destroyed. Then allows the man
responsible to escape to plot more foul deeds. Goes to war against a
basically inert 3rd world country to shift attention from his failures with
the economy and said madman.
That's the man I want leading this country for the next 4 years! He's as
insane as the man he's supposed to be chasing.
That's the 4 Horsemen's dust trail you can see on the horizon there.

The recession lasted officially 8 months. The NBER is the entity that
is the authority for such things.

It is not possible to destroy an economy between Jan 20 and March 1.
It was definitely the "Clinton recession."

Regarding the 9 months, first of all, it was less than 8.

Secondly, the guy who did it was Osama bin Laden who was
unquestionably behind the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa on 8/7/98.
What was Clinton doing between 8/7/98 and 1/20/03--2 years and 5
months?

Arguably we should call 9/11, the "Clinton WTC attacks"

Ryd

In The Darkness

2004-01-15 16:53:56 UTC

Post by r***@yahoo.com
The recession lasted officially 8 months. The NBER is the entity that
is the authority for such things.
It is not possible to destroy an economy between Jan 20 and March 1.
It was definitely the "Clinton recession."
Regarding the 9 months, first of all, it was less than 8.
Secondly, the guy who did it was Osama bin Laden who was

The economy collapsed -long- before UBL sent 911.

UBL just made a scapegoat for "VV".

Oh, BTW, I wonder how Clinton caused the recession
that occurred under the LAST Bush president ?

It -does- seem to be a trend under the Bush regimes....

Post by r***@yahoo.com
unquestionably behind the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa on 8/7/98.
What was Clinton doing between 8/7/98 and 1/20/03--2 years and 5
months?

He hit those groups several times, in maneuvers,
in case you don't recall. He just didn't create all the
FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt)
and use it sheep herd the people into
overriding the American Constitution.

Post by r***@yahoo.com
Arguably we should call 9/11, the "Clinton WTC attacks"
Ryd

Steveo

2004-01-15 18:34:38 UTC

Post by r***@yahoo.com

" Mr. Obviously Stupid"

Check GDP figures for the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2000. The fourth quarter
GDP percentage INCREASE was almost DOUBLE the third quarter GDP increase.
The economy was on an upswing. It was definitely a "Bush recession."

Post by r***@yahoo.com
Regarding the 9 months, first of all, it was less than 8.
Secondly, the guy who did it was Osama bin Laden who was
unquestionably behind the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa on 8/7/98.
What was Clinton doing between 8/7/98 and 1/20/03--2 years and 5
months?
Arguably we should call 9/11, the "Clinton WTC attacks"
Ryd

--
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there
can be too much of a good thing.

-- Karl Rove, The New Yorker, 02/16/2001

XDCC

2005-04-02 06:05:00 UTC

Post by Dickmcb
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first three
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Setpember 11, 2001. You liberals act as though it never happened. And you
get mad when someone tries to do something about it.

Kalun D

2005-04-02 08:05:11 UTC

Post by Dickmcb
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first three
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Setpember 11, 2001. You liberals act as though it never happened. And you
get mad when someone tries to do something about it.

911 was a fraud, it was perpetrated by the cabal that runs this country

It was a staged event designed to convince the populace we needed a war
on "terror" (war for oil)

the trillion dollar war machine needs an enemy to justify it's expense
and provide further expenditure. The russians gave up, they had to be
replaced.

When the war machine owns the media and the government then you need to
start worrying.

BUSH=TERRORIST

2005-04-04 21:56:12 UTC

Post by Dickmcb
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first three
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Setpember 11, 2001. You liberals act as though it never happened. And you
get mad when someone tries to do something about it.

Oh the whole world is aware that the US government/CIA attacked the US
on 9/11, using their propaganda patsies "terrorists", who they use to
blame for their illegal covert op's, overthrowing of governments,
their intentional uprising they cause in other countries, currently
going on even in Venezuela, training of their death squads, etc., to
cover up the 6+ million deaths they're responsible for, and 9/11 being
no different.

When Bush prevented/blocked any and all investigations for nearly two
years, breaking the law by obstructing justice, appointed the so
called "independent" 9/11 commission, who never questioned Wackenhut
Security, who was in charge of all three airports security,
who is owned and run by ex-CIA/FBI agents, who receives 98% of
all government security contracts, who recently replaced the security
at both West Point and Annapolis, who Bush has teamed up with FEMA,
yet the purpose of the 9/11 commission was to find out how 9/11 was
allowed to happen. Ye they weren't interested how supposedly 19
hijackers managed to get past passenger security check with no
tickets, much less past the boarding gates without boarding passes.

And amazing that the top grade steel from the WTC was sold to a man
in Turkey for $120 a ton, who jumped from the 62 world's richest
person to the 2nd world's richest, in one year because of it.

And the billions Halliburton is profiting, along with the $13+
trillion that Bush hasn't had to account for etc.

Yes, we can certainly see what Bush is doing, cleaning out this
country right into bankruptcy while he and his buddies are filling
their bank accounts.

A prime example of atrocities committed by the US government/CIA, out
and out lying to the American people claiming it's for democracy,
freedom, human rights, while doing just the opposite behind the
American people's backs, and covering up their crimes.

"In November 16, 1981, President Reagan allocated 19 million dollars
to form an army, a force of contras, they're called, ex-Somoza
national guards, the monsters who were doing the torture and terror
in Nicaragua that made the Nicaraguan people rise up and throw out
the dictator, and throw out the guard.

To destabilize Nicaragua beginning in 1981, we began funding this
force of Somoza's ex-national guardsmen, calling them the contras
(the counter-revolutionaries). We created this force, it did not
exist until we allocated money. We've armed them, put uniforms on
their backs, boots on their feet, given them camps in Honduras to
live in, medical supplies, doctors, training, leadership, direction,
as we've sent them in to de-stabilize Nicaragua. Under our direction
they have systematically been blowing up graineries, saw mills,
bridges, government offices, schools, health centers. They ambush
trucks so the produce can't get to market. They raid farms and
villages. The farmer has to carry a gun while he tries to plow,
if he can plow at all.

If you want one example of hard proof of the CIA's involvement in
this, and their approach to it, dig up `The Sabotage Manual', that
they were circulating throughout Nicaragua, a comic-book type of a
paper, with visual explanations of what you can do to bring a society
to a halt, how you can gum up typewriters, what you can pour in a gas
tank to burn up engines, what you can stuff in a sewage to stop up the
sewage so it won't work, things you can do to make a society simply
cease to function.

Systematically, the contras have been assassinating religious
workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government
administrators. You remember the assassination manual? that surfaced
in 1984. It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it
himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use
terror. This is a technique that they're using to traumatize the
society so that it can't function.

I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to
understand what your government and its agents are doing. They
go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced
to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face,
they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children
forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts
off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while
they do these things to the children.

This is nobody's propaganda. There have been over 100,000 American
witnesses for peace who have gone down there and they have filmed
and photographed and witnessed these atrocities immediately after
they've happened, and documented 13,000 people killed this way,
mostly women and children. These are the activities done by these
contras. The contras are the people president Reagan calls `freedom
fighters'. He says they're the moral equivalent of our founding
fathers."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm

There has never been one shred of verified evidence "terrorists"
attacked the US, but a hell of a lot showing the US government
did. They can't even keep their lies straight trying to cover up
their crimes.

Marc Lowell

2005-04-08 03:24:34 UTC

Post by Dickmcb
There was an increase of 20 millon jobs in America during the Clinton
years. There has been a loss of 3 million jobs just during the first three
years of Bush. Can you explain that?

Setpember 11, 2001. You liberals act as though it never happened. And you
get mad when someone tries to do something about it.

So you think in your narrow mind of yours

America is hungry for Revenge

Understable but just a little

Do you think bombing a small time dictator with no ties to 9/11 or WMD
s hmmm how all Public Inquiries cleared Bush Cheney Paul Folfowitz or
Donald Rumsfelfds setting up his own Intelligence to support whatever
CIA Wouldn't .... hmm it smells of a DICTATORSHIP supportint Campaign
Contributors like Lockheed Martin

Tempest

2004-01-10 20:44:00 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

Why didn't you include this, Head Of Dung?

January 1993 (Clinton takes office): 7.5%
January 1996 (Clinton's 4th year): 5.8%

January 2001 (Bush takes office): 4.2%
January 2004 (Bush's 4th year): 5.7%

Not so pretty for Bush now, is it?

--
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
- George Orwell

HOD

2004-01-10 22:33:26 UTC

Post by HOD
Current Unemployment Rate: (1/04) 5.7%
Clinton Unemployment Rate: (1/96) 5.8%
(beginning of 4th year comparison)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.020296.news

Why didn't you include this, Head Of Dung?
January 1993 (Clinton takes office): 7.5%
January 1996 (Clinton's 4th year): 5.8%
January 2001 (Bush takes office): 4.2%
January 2004 (Bush's 4th year): 5.7%
Not so pretty for Bush now, is it?

I stand by my post. It is 100% accurate. Bush's unemployment rate is lower
than Clinton's at the same date in their respective terms. If you can prove
I'm wrong, do so! Can you?

In spite of the Clinton recession that showed first signs of beginning in
the 3rd quarter of 2000, Bush has now brought it under control even with the
compounded negative effect that Clinton's 9/11 had! :-))

Good job! Huh?

The Bandit

2004-01-11 06:03:46 UTC