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American Politics - Are we being all we can be?
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politicalguideusa
2006-02-01 01:29:35 UTC
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Wrong thinking in specific areas of great importance has separated and polarized us politically as a people and as a nation, almost to the point of being irreparable. By the time you finish reading the document at the website address below, you will better understand why this has happened, who is benefiting from it, why both sides share in the blame and why those responsible continue, even now, to do everything in their power to keep our country moving in the same dangerous direction we are now heading. If you believe that there are errors on both sides of our two party system and that as a country, we can do better than we are doing today, please take a bit of your time to read the information in the document at the website address below. I have posted this message for you because I believe that you will find the content at the website to be very worthwhile; otherwise I would not have bothered you with it. Thank you for your time. G. W.



A GUIDE TO THE REAL NATURE OF POLITICS IN AMERICA



How And Why We Got Into This Fix And How We Can Get Out Of It



http://users.hcis.net/politicalguideusa/
Al
2006-02-18 05:10:42 UTC
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
A bad idea...!
If you believe that there are errors on both sides of our two party system
and that as a country, we can do better than we are doing today,
Yes, sure... but how much will it matter now?

Well, nobody likes to hear bad news, and, like most everybody else, i
don't like to send bad news, either, if i can help it. How about talking
about talk about opportunities instead? Yes, i think there are
opportunities for us to do something to prevent, or at least mitigate,
certain problems that look like they are going to turn into something
real nasty real soon. I am talking about World War 3, an event (if one
may call it that), which, inspite of all the trouble that currently
exists in the world, is still considered by many something hypothetical
that is unlikely to happen, while there are others who consider it an
increasingly likely and rather imminent threat. Count me in the latter
camp. Why? Well, some of you may recall that years ago i have pointed at
the connection between the US attack on Iraq and Iraq's decision to stop
using the US Dollar as their oil trading currency and to use the Euro
instead. And right now Iran is moving to do the same - and the US has
beenm ratching up the rhetoric about Iran being a threat to the world
(well, anybody who has nuclear weapons is a threat to me: Israel,
anybody? Pakistan? India? France? Britain? Russia? China? the USA?
Argentina? Well, maybe not yet. North Korea? Maybe close. Taiwan? Let's
keep that a secret. Japan? Another secret. - Heck what is this blabbing
about "trying to prevent proliferation of nuclear arms"?)

Anyway, with something called the Iranian Oil Bourse reportedly
scheduled to open in March of this year, the US sees an enemy much more
important to tackle than anybody with nuclear weapons. You surely have
not failed to notice how Iran, with no nuclear weapons yet, is
increasingly being painted as much more dangerous than North Korea,
which reportedly already has such weapons. But North Korea has no oil,
so it is not posing a threat to the US dollar.

What does "threat to the US dollar" mean? If the US dollar is no longer
the world's reserve currency, i.e., not of much value for others outside
the US any longer, then the US economy will be toast, since it is based
on the fiction of a valuable dollar that has allowed the US for decades
to live high on the hog at the expense of everybody else in the world.

Here is a quick primer on the subject for anybody who is not yet
familiar with the issue:
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-petrov200106.htm .

If you think this is an unrealistic way of looking at the issue, go to a
search engine and do a search with the three words "iran", "oil", and
"bourse" (without the quotation marks and commas) to get some second
(etc.) opinions.

If you then have any questions, feel free to ask me (i may not always be
able to answer them, but i'll probably be able to point you in the
direction of possible answers).


--
politicalguideusa
2006-03-07 19:16:48 UTC
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You & I are not on opposite sides of this matter. There are wider questions you have touched on which were not within the scope or
the purpose of my essay. There are a great many positive things that can be done to change the situation dramatically, but not
before the people of America know what the facts are. Providing that information within the scope of the subject of the paper was
the purpose behind my writing. Once the people are informed they will be more likely to be receptive to change. Change is
inevitable but we can decide whether we climb out of the toilet or flush ourselves down. Thanks for your response.

GW
Post by Al
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
A bad idea...!
If you believe that there are errors on both sides of our two party system
and that as a country, we can do better than we are doing today,
Yes, sure... but how much will it matter now?
Well, nobody likes to hear bad news, and, like most everybody else, i
don't like to send bad news, either, if i can help it. How about talking
about talk about opportunities instead? Yes, i think there are
opportunities for us to do something to prevent, or at least mitigate,
certain problems that look like they are going to turn into something
real nasty real soon. I am talking about World War 3, an event (if one
may call it that), which, inspite of all the trouble that currently
exists in the world, is still considered by many something hypothetical
that is unlikely to happen, while there are others who consider it an
increasingly likely and rather imminent threat. Count me in the latter
camp. Why? Well, some of you may recall that years ago i have pointed at
the connection between the US attack on Iraq and Iraq's decision to stop
using the US Dollar as their oil trading currency and to use the Euro
instead. And right now Iran is moving to do the same - and the US has
beenm ratching up the rhetoric about Iran being a threat to the world
(well, anybody who has nuclear weapons is a threat to me: Israel,
anybody? Pakistan? India? France? Britain? Russia? China? the USA?
Argentina? Well, maybe not yet. North Korea? Maybe close. Taiwan? Let's
keep that a secret. Japan? Another secret. - Heck what is this blabbing
about "trying to prevent proliferation of nuclear arms"?)
Anyway, with something called the Iranian Oil Bourse reportedly
scheduled to open in March of this year, the US sees an enemy much more
important to tackle than anybody with nuclear weapons. You surely have
not failed to notice how Iran, with no nuclear weapons yet, is
increasingly being painted as much more dangerous than North Korea,
which reportedly already has such weapons. But North Korea has no oil,
so it is not posing a threat to the US dollar.
What does "threat to the US dollar" mean? If the US dollar is no longer
the world's reserve currency, i.e., not of much value for others outside
the US any longer, then the US economy will be toast, since it is based
on the fiction of a valuable dollar that has allowed the US for decades
to live high on the hog at the expense of everybody else in the world.
Here is a quick primer on the subject for anybody who is not yet
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-petrov200106.htm .
If you think this is an unrealistic way of looking at the issue, go to a
search engine and do a search with the three words "iran", "oil", and
"bourse" (without the quotation marks and commas) to get some second
(etc.) opinions.
If you then have any questions, feel free to ask me (i may not always be
able to answer them, but i'll probably be able to point you in the
direction of possible answers).
--
Crowfoot
2006-03-08 06:36:40 UTC
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Post by politicalguideusa
You & I are not on opposite sides of this matter. There are wider questions
you have touched on which were not within the scope or
the purpose of my essay. There are a great many positive things that can be
done to change the situation dramatically, but not
before the people of America know what the facts are. Providing that
information within the scope of the subject of the paper was
the purpose behind my writing. Once the people are informed they will be
more likely to be receptive to change. Change is
inevitable but we can decide whether we climb out of the toilet or flush
ourselves down. Thanks for your response.
GW
Post by Al
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
A bad idea...!
If you believe that there are errors on both sides of our two party system
and that as a country, we can do better than we are doing today,
Yes, sure... but how much will it matter now?
Well, nobody likes to hear bad news, and, like most everybody else, i
don't like to send bad news, either, if i can help it. How about talking
about talk about opportunities instead? Yes, i think there are
opportunities for us to do something to prevent, or at least mitigate,
certain problems that look like they are going to turn into something
real nasty real soon. I am talking about World War 3, an event (if one
may call it that), which, inspite of all the trouble that currently
exists in the world, is still considered by many something hypothetical
that is unlikely to happen, while there are others who consider it an
increasingly likely and rather imminent threat. Count me in the latter
camp. Why? Well, some of you may recall that years ago i have pointed at
the connection between the US attack on Iraq and Iraq's decision to stop
using the US Dollar as their oil trading currency and to use the Euro
instead. And right now Iran is moving to do the same - and the US has
beenm ratching up the rhetoric about Iran being a threat to the world
(well, anybody who has nuclear weapons is a threat to me: Israel,
anybody? Pakistan? India? France? Britain? Russia? China? the USA?
Argentina? Well, maybe not yet. North Korea? Maybe close. Taiwan? Let's
keep that a secret. Japan? Another secret. - Heck what is this blabbing
about "trying to prevent proliferation of nuclear arms"?)
Anyway, with something called the Iranian Oil Bourse reportedly
scheduled to open in March of this year, the US sees an enemy much more
important to tackle than anybody with nuclear weapons. You surely have
not failed to notice how Iran, with no nuclear weapons yet, is
increasingly being painted as much more dangerous than North Korea,
which reportedly already has such weapons. But North Korea has no oil,
so it is not posing a threat to the US dollar.
What does "threat to the US dollar" mean? If the US dollar is no longer
the world's reserve currency, i.e., not of much value for others outside
the US any longer, then the US economy will be toast, since it is based
on the fiction of a valuable dollar that has allowed the US for decades
to live high on the hog at the expense of everybody else in the world.
Here is a quick primer on the subject for anybody who is not yet
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-petrov200106.htm .
If you think this is an unrealistic way of looking at the issue, go to a
search engine and do a search with the three words "iran", "oil", and
"bourse" (without the quotation marks and commas) to get some second
(etc.) opinions.
If you then have any questions, feel free to ask me (i may not always be
able to answer them, but i'll probably be able to point you in the
direction of possible answers).
--
Nothing unrealistic about it; my investment counsellor, who is no
fool (he's made me some good $ and is also a General in the
National Guard who trains kids to go get blown up in Iraq, very
unhappily) says exactly the same thing: it was about petrodollars
and continues to be basically a frantic effort by the Republicans
to stave off the overtaking of the US economy by the Chinese, who
are fresh from the constraints of communism and raring to go,
minus the various regulations and so on that time has developed
here to keep US capitalism from going completely crazy and
devouring the entire planet.

The Chinese will do it instead; they can't be stopped, and the US
can't be saved, certainly not by the boneheads currently in charge.
We have run through our Imperial period in just a century and a
quarter or so; the Romans did a lot better, but then they didn't
have email.

C

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