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Is Jeb Messin with the Black Folk Down in Florida!!!!!
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enceladus
2004-08-16 15:18:38 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/16/opinion/16herbert.html?hp
Suppress the Vote?
By BOB HERBERT
The big story out of Florida over the weekend was the tragic
devastation caused by Hurricane Charley.
But there's another story from Florida that deserves our attention.
State police officers have gone into the homes of elderly black voters
in Orlando and interrogated them as part of an odd "investigation"
that has frightened many voters, intimidated elderly volunteers and
thrown a chill over efforts to get out the black vote in November.
The officers, from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, which
reports to Gov. Jeb Bush, say they are investigating allegations of
voter fraud that came up during the Orlando mayoral election in March.
Officials refused to discuss details of the investigation, other than
to say that absentee ballots are involved.
They said they had no idea when the investigation might end, and
acknowledged that it may continue right through the presidential
election.
"We did a preliminary inquiry into those allegations and then we
concluded that there was enough evidence to follow through with a full
criminal investigation," said Geo Morales, a spokesman for the
Department of Law Enforcement.
The state police officers, armed and in plain clothes, have questioned
dozens of voters in their homes.
Some of those questioned have been volunteers in get-out-the-vote
campaigns.
I asked Mr. Morales in a telephone conversation to tell me what
criminal activity had taken place.
"I can't talk about that," he said.
I asked if all the people interrogated were black.
"Well, mainly it was a black neighborhood we were looking at - yes,''
he said.
He also said, "Most of them were elderly."
When I asked why, he said, "That's just the people we selected out of
a random sample to interview."
Back in the bad old days, some decades ago, when Southern whites used
every imaginable form of chicanery to prevent blacks from voting,
blacks often fought back by creating voters leagues, which were
organizations that helped to register, educate and encourage black
voters.
It became a tradition that continues in many places, including
Florida, today.
Not surprisingly, many of the elderly black voters who found
themselves face to face with state police officers in Orlando are
members of the Orlando League of Voters, which has been very
successful in mobilizing the city's black vote.
The president of the Orlando League of Voters is Ezzie Thomas, who is
73 years old.
With his demonstrated ability to deliver the black vote in Orlando,
Mr. Thomas is a tempting target for supporters of George W. Bush in a
state in which the black vote may well spell the difference between
victory and defeat.
The vile smell of voter suppression is all over this so-called
investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
"The Voters League has workers who go into the community to do voter
registration, drive people to the polls and help with absentee
ballots. They are elderly women mostly. They get paid like $100 for
four or five months' work, just to offset things like the cost of
their gas. They see this political activity as an important
contribution to their community. Some of the people in the community
had never cast a ballot until the league came to their door and
encouraged them to vote."
Now, said Mr. Egan, the fear generated by state police officers going
into people's homes as part of an ongoing criminal investigation
related to voting is threatening to undo much of the good work of the
league.
He said, "One woman asked me, 'Am I going to go to jail now because I
voted by absentee ballot?' "
According to Mr. Egan, "People who have voted by absentee ballot for
years are refusing to allow campaign workers to come to their homes.
And volunteers who have participated for years in assisting people,
particularly the elderly or handicapped, are scared and don't want to
risk a criminal investigation."
Florida is a state that's very much in play in the presidential
election, with some polls showing John Kerry in the lead.
A heavy-handed state police investigation that throws a blanket of
fear over thousands of black voters can only help President Bush.
The long and ugly tradition of suppressing the black vote is alive and
thriving in the Sunshine State.
___________________________________________________________
Intimidation of voters is a Bush family tradition.
Harry
lab~rat
2004-08-16 17:37:30 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/16/opinion/16herbert.html?hp
Suppress the Vote?
By BOB HERBERT
The big story out of Florida over the weekend was the tragic
devastation caused by Hurricane Charley.
But there's another story from Florida that deserves our attention.
State police officers have gone into the homes of elderly black voters
in Orlando and interrogated them as part of an odd "investigation"
that has frightened many voters, intimidated elderly volunteers and
thrown a chill over efforts to get out the black vote in November.
The officers, from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, which
reports to Gov. Jeb Bush, say they are investigating allegations of
voter fraud that came up during the Orlando mayoral election in March.
Officials refused to discuss details of the investigation, other than
to say that absentee ballots are involved.
They said they had no idea when the investigation might end, and
acknowledged that it may continue right through the presidential
election.
"We did a preliminary inquiry into those allegations and then we
concluded that there was enough evidence to follow through with a full
criminal investigation," said Geo Morales, a spokesman for the
Department of Law Enforcement.
The state police officers, armed and in plain clothes, have questioned
dozens of voters in their homes.
Some of those questioned have been volunteers in get-out-the-vote
campaigns.
I asked Mr. Morales in a telephone conversation to tell me what
criminal activity had taken place.
"I can't talk about that," he said.
I asked if all the people interrogated were black.
"Well, mainly it was a black neighborhood we were looking at - yes,''
he said.
He also said, "Most of them were elderly."
When I asked why, he said, "That's just the people we selected out of
a random sample to interview."
Back in the bad old days, some decades ago, when Southern whites used
every imaginable form of chicanery to prevent blacks from voting,
blacks often fought back by creating voters leagues, which were
organizations that helped to register, educate and encourage black
voters.
It became a tradition that continues in many places, including
Florida, today.
Not surprisingly, many of the elderly black voters who found
themselves face to face with state police officers in Orlando are
members of the Orlando League of Voters, which has been very
successful in mobilizing the city's black vote.
The president of the Orlando League of Voters is Ezzie Thomas,
<snip>

For the record:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1166526/posts

DYER CANVASSING BOARD SEEKS DELAY OF ORLANDO ELECTION FRAUD TRIAL
PR ^ | July 6, 2004 | Doug Guetzloe


Posted on 07/06/2004 6:59:37 PM PDT by PRSOrlando


For Immediate Release For Further Information Contact Doug Guetzloe
(407) 895-0077

DYER CANVASSING BOARD SEEKS DELAY OF ORLANDO ELECTION FRAUD TRIAL SET
FOR JULY 27TH

King & Blackwell representing the City of Orlando Board and
coordinating Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer's legal team has improperly
scheduled a motion to continue or delay the long anticipated Orlando
election fraud trail set for July 27, 2004, before Circuit Judge
Theotis Bronson.

A motion for continuance (delay) of the trial will be presented by the
Dyer legal team tomorrow (Wednesday, 7/7/04) to Judge Bronson at 8:30
a.m. (11th floor, Orange County Courthouse) during the judge's
regularly scheduled "ex-parte" hearing time. Ex-parte hearings are
held for uncontested matters and for signing of orders that have
already been adjudicated and are uncontested. The motion by the Dyer
legal team violates both Florida rules of civil procedure and existing
court rules. Mulvaney attorney Frederic B. O'Neal will be present at
the hearing to oppose the motion.

This surprise motion to delay the trial comes after months of protests
by Dyer that he wants an immediate trial to dismiss the unfounded
allegations.

The motion follows the submission of nineteen (19) affidavits and
eleven (11) sworn statements by Orlando voters who have stated that
Dyer campaign consultant, Ezzie Thomas, illegally tampered with
absentee ballots cast during the recent Mayoral race. An additional
twenty-two (22) affidavits were not submitted to the court but may be
used as rebuttal during the trial.

Thomas and other associates gathered nearly 500 absentee votes during
that election. Dyer won the election without a run-off by only 232
votes. Dyer's campaign is also subject to an ever-widening criminal
investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement for
racketeering and vote fraud.

Mulvaney stands by the need for an immediate trial and the need for
the voters of the City of Orlando to learn whether their votes were
legitimately cast or was the election won by illegal and fraudulent
activities coordinated by Dyer and his campaign consultants.

(END)



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2004-08-16 18:22:14 UTC
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Tinfoil hats on Isle 3!
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My skin crawls when I think of the first week after 9/11. I was looking out
of the window and there were people walking down the street carrying
American flags. It reminded me of spontaneous, angry Nazis and I thought,
'Oh, man, we are in a lot of trouble'. There's a whole bunch of people who
have flags hanging from their cars and who are mistaking fascism for
patriotism."

- Rickie Lee Jones, Fanatical America-Hating Nutcase & Proud Liberal
Democrat
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/16/opinion/16herbert.html?hp
Suppress the Vote?
By BOB HERBERT
The big story out of Florida over the weekend was the tragic
devastation caused by Hurricane Charley.
But there's another story from Florida that deserves our attention.
State police officers have gone into the homes of elderly black voters
in Orlando and interrogated them as part of an odd "investigation"
that has frightened many voters, intimidated elderly volunteers and
thrown a chill over efforts to get out the black vote in November.
The officers, from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, which
reports to Gov. Jeb Bush, say they are investigating allegations of
voter fraud that came up during the Orlando mayoral election in March.
Officials refused to discuss details of the investigation, other than
to say that absentee ballots are involved.
They said they had no idea when the investigation might end, and
acknowledged that it may continue right through the presidential
election.
"We did a preliminary inquiry into those allegations and then we
concluded that there was enough evidence to follow through with a full
criminal investigation," said Geo Morales, a spokesman for the
Department of Law Enforcement.
The state police officers, armed and in plain clothes, have questioned
dozens of voters in their homes.
Some of those questioned have been volunteers in get-out-the-vote
campaigns.
I asked Mr. Morales in a telephone conversation to tell me what
criminal activity had taken place.
"I can't talk about that," he said.
I asked if all the people interrogated were black.
"Well, mainly it was a black neighborhood we were looking at - yes,''
he said.
He also said, "Most of them were elderly."
When I asked why, he said, "That's just the people we selected out of
a random sample to interview."
Back in the bad old days, some decades ago, when Southern whites used
every imaginable form of chicanery to prevent blacks from voting,
blacks often fought back by creating voters leagues, which were
organizations that helped to register, educate and encourage black
voters.
It became a tradition that continues in many places, including
Florida, today.
Not surprisingly, many of the elderly black voters who found
themselves face to face with state police officers in Orlando are
members of the Orlando League of Voters, which has been very
successful in mobilizing the city's black vote.
The president of the Orlando League of Voters is Ezzie Thomas, who is
73 years old.
With his demonstrated ability to deliver the black vote in Orlando,
Mr. Thomas is a tempting target for supporters of George W. Bush in a
state in which the black vote may well spell the difference between
victory and defeat.
The vile smell of voter suppression is all over this so-called
investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
"The Voters League has workers who go into the community to do voter
registration, drive people to the polls and help with absentee
ballots. They are elderly women mostly. They get paid like $100 for
four or five months' work, just to offset things like the cost of
their gas. They see this political activity as an important
contribution to their community. Some of the people in the community
had never cast a ballot until the league came to their door and
encouraged them to vote."
Now, said Mr. Egan, the fear generated by state police officers going
into people's homes as part of an ongoing criminal investigation
related to voting is threatening to undo much of the good work of the
league.
He said, "One woman asked me, 'Am I going to go to jail now because I
voted by absentee ballot?' "
According to Mr. Egan, "People who have voted by absentee ballot for
years are refusing to allow campaign workers to come to their homes.
And volunteers who have participated for years in assisting people,
particularly the elderly or handicapped, are scared and don't want to
risk a criminal investigation."
Florida is a state that's very much in play in the presidential
election, with some polls showing John Kerry in the lead.
A heavy-handed state police investigation that throws a blanket of
fear over thousands of black voters can only help President Bush.
The long and ugly tradition of suppressing the black vote is alive and
thriving in the Sunshine State.
___________________________________________________________
Intimidation of voters is a Bush family tradition.
Harry
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